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The Curation by Nour Hassan
The Curation, formerly Radical Contemporary, is a Digital Curator and Podcast based between Cairo, Dubai & Jeddah. We curate everything from art, fashion, and design, to culture, wellness and tech to present you with only the best brands, founders, products and pioneers.
The Curation by Nour Hassan
Yasmin Khalil: KŌDO London & The Sweet Science of Scent-Driven Wellness
Scent has a powerful ability to transport us through time and space, evoking memories with just one breath. In this riveting conversation with Yasmin Khalil, founder of KŌDO London, we unlock the secrets of luxury home fragrance that honors both indulgence and wellness simultaneously.
Yasmin reveals how her Lebanese heritage and interior design background converged to create something truly revolutionary: decadent, food-inspired home fragrances that are potent and non-toxic. After discovering that conventional fragrance products can contain up to 4,000 hidden chemicals (many linked to serious health concerns like hormone disruption and reproductive issues), she set out to create a clean alternative that sacrifices nothing in luxury or scent experience.
The magic of KŌDO lies in its gourmand inspirations—think dark chocolate espresso, matcha vanilla coconut, and caramelized citrus—all crafted to evoke those special moments throughout our day. Yasmin walks us through how scent can transform spaces and moods, sharing her personal rituals for morning energizing, workout preparation, and evening unwinding.
Visit KŌDO London for more and to check out their mini sets available now!
Action. Welcome to the Curation, a show for the culturally curious. This is your host, noor Hassan. Each week, I'll guide you through a curated edit of the finest in art, fashion, design, culture, luxury, wellness, tech and more. This is your go-to space for discovering trailblazing ideas, untold stories and meaningful conversations with innovators and creators who are shaping our world. There's no gatekeeping here, so sit back, tune in and let's discover only the best.
Speaker 1:In this episode, I'm joined by Yasmeen Khalil, the founder of Kodo, a scent-driven wellness brand, blending fragrance, food and ritual. We explore the power of clean scent daily rituals and how Kodo is redefining home fragrance through sensory storytelling, is redefining home fragrance through sensory storytelling. Yasmin was so kind to send me their incredible minis set, which is the most beautiful gift and includes five distinct fragrances that you can use to scent your home or even yourself, and it is clean and non-toxic. So the fragrances include Morning Glory, citrus, Bliss, pick Me Up by the Fire, sweet Dreams and have notes of incredible rich dark chocolate, Madagascar, vanilla, sweet orange, espresso, ginger, cinnamon and so much more. I truly enjoyed discovering this brand, Kodo London.
Speaker 1:And now, without further ado, this is my conversation with the founder, yasmeen. Hey, everyone, right now I'm speaking with Yasmeen Khalil, who is the founder of Kodo, and Yasmeen is someone whose brand I discovered through my pilates community, because this is something that I think wellness in general. Um, all of the creators tend to look for brands that are elevating in the market, and I think that that's essentially what your brand was doing. So I was following it for a while and then we got to talking and I felt it would be the perfect actually episode to do in this current season. So, first of all, yasmin, I'd love for you to introduce yourself to the audience.
Speaker 2:Hi, so I'm Yasmin. I'm originally Lebanese but grew up in London. I'm originally Lebanese but grew up in London. Initially I was an interior designer and then I went into the world of fragrance a few years ago and created a brand called Kodo. Kodo is a home fragrance brand, but it essentially blends three different elements, which is fragrance, food and wellness.
Speaker 2:So they're all natural, which is the wellness aspect of it. We use kind of the top quality ingredients. They're all non-toxic, they're clean. They're just much better for you than most things on the market right now. We don't use any preservatives, parabens, phthalates, which I can go into later. So that's the wellness aspect of it in a nutshell. And then the food element comes in, because I feel like, being Middle Eastern, we associate so much with food and nostalgia and memories of home, and I feel like when I think of home, I think of the smell of like a coffee brewing in the morning or a fresh cake in the oven or my favorite drink in the morning, and I just feel like there was nothing on the market that was making home fragrance that smelled luxurious and felt luxurious but also was super decadent. So I wanted to create a product that really represented those sweet moments of your day and those sweet delicacies that we love having throughout the day.
Speaker 1:Amazing. I love that and I think you're so right. I think it's one of the most difficult things to find like a perfect mix of a product that is actually not toxic for the home but also has a decadent smell. So I think that's incredible. I want I want you to actually describe to us a little bit. So who is Yasmeen today? I know you've been through a long journey and it's incredible. You're Middle Eastern, you're living in London. It's such an eclectic society in general and I love London but so who is Yasmeen today?
Speaker 2:Your state of mind, your current mood. Yeah, I mean, who I am really shines through the brand and I think that's what's really special about it to me, because who I am is someone that really enjoys those small moments, whether it's small moments of your day and rituals throughout your day, whether that's just kind of really appreciating, yeah, just the sweet moments of your day, the sweet moments of your life. I love, I think who Yasmin is, it's like definitely a foodie, so that really shines through brand. I have such a passion for wellness.
Speaker 2:I think one of the things that is such a core value to me is quality. So, whether it is quality of a product, quality of the food I eat, quality of everything I do on a daily basis really matters to me and that's why I think, when I look at even the design of Kodo and the bottle itself, it had to be of like the top quality. I wanted it to look like an accessory on your shelf, not just a cheap fragrance bottle. The formula I needed it to be the highest quality because I wanted to know like what I'm breathing in isn't going to be toxic for me. So, yeah, I would say who I am is someone that just really cares about quality and someone that just really appreciates the sweet little moments.
Speaker 1:I think that's really, really resonated in your brand and from even the Instagram account from your account I can tell that you do romanticize everything, which is lovely, and I think we need a lot more of it. Honestly, I absolutely love that. So I want to get into the emotional power of scent. So I don't think people really understand the impact that fragrance can have in like shaping your mood and wellness. So can you tell us a little bit more about that and how it obviously inspired you to create a whole brand focused on this?
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure. My journey with that actually started when I was an interior designer and I started to understand the power of changing the way someone feels when they walk into a room. So whenever people ask me about oh my gosh, like how did you go from interior design to fragrance? It's so different I always say they're not actually so different.
Speaker 2:When I was a designer, you would design a room in such a specific way so that that person feels a specific feeling. For example, if you were designing a bedroom and that person has a very hectic work life outside the home, I would design it in a way that made them feel like it was their sanctuary. So you would use calming colors, calming lighting, etc. And I really started to understand the way you can manipulate the way someone feels in this space. And then, when I started fragrance manipulate the way someone feels in this space and then when I started fragrance, I felt it was the exact same thing.
Speaker 2:Like you can smell something and it takes you back years of memories. Or you smell something and it makes you really hungry or makes you feel nostalgic. If you're feeling kind of like you want to go out and you have, let's say, an evening planned, you would want something a bit more dark and sensual. So, yeah, I would say that's where I started to really look into how you can change the way someone feels through scent. And then, like I said, my journey has always really the core of it all has really been this food element. And I started to look into all these coffee shops and food concepts and I realized a lot of them will actually diffuse the scent into their stores so that you can manipulate the way a customer acts. So let's say you're a coffee shop and you want to be selling more croissant, you could essentially mimic the smell of a bakery, diffuse that throughout the store and statistically, people are much more likely to buy a pastry with their coffee.
Speaker 1:so that's we actually started that's really interesting and I think it works 100%. I've been there and I've been influenced by these, um, I mean it, it's tools and it's incredible. Actually, it gives the coziest feeling to any space. And so I think I want to get into the most interesting part of Kodo, which is really the part that made me truly want to interview on our podcast, which is the non-toxic element of it, the clean fragrance element of it. This is what's truly so innovative, because not only is the fragrance potent and aesthetic and beautiful, but also it does not harm you, which, unfortunately, we all know. The candle brands that smell amazing. I'm sure they're not great for us, right? And this is a movement. So how did you sort of get on this and be a first mover in this field?
Speaker 2:um. So I think I always say there's one thing following your passion, which this is definitely something I was passionate about, and then there's another thing which is like, are you able to monetize your passion and does it make sense? And when I looked at the market, you had people that were talking about clean perfume. So I'm not the first when it comes to that. You have clean perfume brands. But in the home fragrance market and, like I said, I had a background in design, so I really love the idea of creating this sanctuary in your home I didn't feel like the home fragrance market was doing it. Well, you had your luxurious brands, like you said, that smelled very good, but they don't really care about what they're. You know the colorful candles they're using because it doesn't make sense for them to. They can profit more of using kind of the you know usual standard ingredients. And then you had the natural brands, which are out there, but I didn't feel they had this like elevated presence or this element of luxury or you know. So that's where I really saw there was a gap in the market and I wanted to bridge that gap with Kodo, which was a luxurious, decadent product that was also good for you. What I mean by good for you is you know the actual term fragrance.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, the industry allows brands to use it as a vague term fragrance, but that can be a blend of ingredients that can include up to 4000 chemicals, wow, ok, so I was shocked when I started to research that and then basically, yeah, companies can hide a bunch of harmful chemicals in their products under the simple term fragrance.
Speaker 2:So under that term, the main one especially for a woman that is super harmful is called phthalates, and phthalates have been proved to disrupt hormone activity, reduce sperm count, cause reproductive malformations. So for me, this was like the biggest red flag, especially as a young woman who, I feel, like so many of us, struggle with hormonal imbalances. I just found that like this was crazy to me. So I really wanted to tackle that issue with Kodo and like make sure we're not using any of those and then other chemicals that usually are in fragrances have, like also have impacts like brain fog, asthma fog, asthma, bloating, fatigue, like there are so many harmful impacts of these chemicals. So that was a big, big, big priority for us, which was to move away from that. Unfortunately, obviously it's much more expensive to produce, but I do believe consumers nowadays really care for clean ingredients and I think it's such a shame for brands not to tap into that.
Speaker 1:I think your answer is incredible because I mean, really now, with the age of like I don't know TikTok and everything we're so educated as consumers. When you find out that something is not good for you, you will effectively stop using it and look for an alternative. So when you messaged me and I found your brand and I made the connection, I was like, wow, this is so incredible. This is something I really have actively been searching for as a consumer.
Speaker 2:I'm so happy.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to share them with you. I know me too, and the thing is like, and I, and even in Dubai, which I mean, I I'm back and forth every single month Like it's such such such an incredible market and still up and coming fragrance is still something, like you said, it's a gap and I think you really found the correct balance, um, to fill it. So I want to get into the food and like the, the gourmand element of your fragrances. Um, I love a good like dark chocolate.
Speaker 2:I need to, I need like it.
Speaker 1:I always say I need a daily piece of chocolate exactly like a decadent, like delicious thing, and I think maybe it's like the middle eastern side. Um, so, like I, what I'm saying is that I really think the middle eastern side of you, like you know food, you know the scents and like I feel like the home is always filled with, like we have the concept of like the hood and all of these incredible things. So what made you really go into the incredible sense of like dark chocolate, cinnamon, hazelnut it's so creative and it's not your standard like I don't know um smell of like powder or laundry or whatever. You know what I mean. You went really into like the most decadent of scents. Is there a reason for it?
Speaker 2:uh, yeah, there. I mean, there's so, funnily enough, there's so many reasons and they all came together in the most authentic, natural way. So the way it all started, um, was I had the biggest passion for perfume, and this is like years back, even before I started working um, and everyone around me knew it. So, like I have, I had a million perfumes in my room. I would go into every department store. I was in search of the perfect, like the perfect gochumon fragrance, um, and I just wanted the perfect vanilla, perfect chocolate. I really don't know why I had this obsession, but I think some things just come and you have to follow your gut with them. And that was how it started. I was just, I loved gourmand perfumes, and then the way I actually made our signature flavors was I just tapped into and thought of what are the flavor combinations that I love consuming? So, for example, I love a chocolate hazelnut. I love everything with nut in it, so like a kind of pistachio, a hazelnut. And so when I created the chocolate one, I thought of okay, like, how can I blend ingredients that are gonna smell so decadent and yummy but also not sickly? So I used dark chocolate mixed with espresso, because I knew the espresso would add an element of bitterness and it wasn't overly sweet.
Speaker 2:The way I created morning glory, which is our matcha one, was I just thought of like how do I like my matcha in the morning? And, like I said, I am I'm very specific with kind of the things I like on a daily basis and really kind of enjoying them, romanticizing them and making sure I'm using like the best quality ingredients. So, for example, my matcha in the morning is usually with like a homemade milk. It's with vanilla, it it's so specific. So when I created Morning Glory, I made sure we used green tea, coconut, because I usually like it with coconut milk.
Speaker 2:I used Madagascar vanilla, because I love adding vanilla. I put a touch of cinnamon, because I love a sprinkle of cinnamon on top. So for me, creating the fragrances felt very natural because I just used the ingredients that I love making or cooking or baking with and incorporated them into the scents, and we did that through obviously like standard ingredients, but then we also used some food extract so that it can be as natural as possible. I love that and, honestly, yeah, that's how it kind of came together.
Speaker 1:That's incredible and you can feel the passion in your voice. Trust me, like I've done over 100 interviews and you're so happy about this, I absolutely can't wait to try all of the fragrances. I want to get into the collaborations you've done so. You worked with some incredible brands in london and dubai I mean expanding across the region and some of them are blank street, obviously incredible matcha union, remys. How have you been able to amplify the brand kodo and do such incredibly tailored collaborations? What's the strategy there? And I'm obsessed, obviously, with the content that comes out of it.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. I feel like this whole call I've been blushing.
Speaker 1:We will definitely do another part two in person, but I have to get you on the podcast ASAP.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely, when I'm in Dubaiai I'll let you know. But, uh, the collaborations came about again in a very organic way. So when I first launched the brand for the last few years before that, I was obsessed with remy's cakes, um, and, like I said, they were top quality ingredients, very good for you. They for me, I think it's like kind of one of the best quality cakes out there and they've always felt so homemade. So she has her famous chocolate and banana cake and I think, in terms of collaboration, the one thing like I would really advise people, no matter what age you are, is just reach out like you don't lose anything. You might get a million ignores, but then you also get guesses along the way and like those kind of are like are so worth it, like get the 10 ignored emails, but then the one that actually works, um, and I usually feel the one that works out is the one that's meant to be on your path, um, and with Rimi's Cakes it happened exactly like that. I was always a customer. I reached out to her when I launched, right before launching the brand, and I I told her our concept and I said I would love to make a scent that represented your brand. And I think what's been amazing for Kodo is that we're able to tap into the food and the wellness. So with Rimi's Cakes it was the food, and we created a signature scent for her, called Choco Bananaane, which is her chocolate banana cake, and it's just amazing. It smells like a fresh banana chocolate cake out the oven, but without the sickly banana feel. It's just like a hint of it, but a more. It just smells like a baked cake. It's really amazing. So that's how her collaboration came about.
Speaker 2:And then Matcha Union. Obviously, because we have Morning Glory, which is a matcha-inspired scent, we were able to collaborate with brands like Matcha Union. I love the founder she's like a good friend of mine now and we do wellness events together. So we usually host a Pilates class or a pop-up. We make matchas for people, um, we let them smell the matcha scent.
Speaker 2:So it's all about creating and curating an experience and combining those elements of food, wellness and scent. So no matter who we're collaborating with, we'll always make sure we're combining those three elements. Um, so that's how match unions collaboration came about. Blank street was actually an interesting one because they had a christmas pop-up recently, and that's the power of scent and personalization, because when they were actually gifting people and selling their merchandise, they used the sprays on their tissue paper so that people were able to like, choose a personalized smell for the gift that they were getting. And I just think that's just such a beautiful interpretation of what scent can do, which is this element of personalization and the special moment and the idea that you can gift it to someone, create a memory from it, take it home with you, and I think that is just such a beautiful way to you know, sell the product.
Speaker 1:I love the idea of the Christmas sense. It makes perfect sense and I can't wait to actually try Rimi's cakes, now that you've talked about it, you're getting the whole thing next week, so okay. So I want to my last couple of questions for you, for the entrepreneurs out there. What's the biggest lesson you've learned over this journey of building Kodo that you would love to share with all of the entrepreneurs that regularly listen to the podcast?
Speaker 2:I think I mean there's obviously like so many things I've learned. But if I had to narrow it down, I think the main thing is, like I mentioned earlier, just throw yourself out there. It's something I've seen that's just really, really, really worked in our favor. I mean, we didn't even launch a year ago, like we launched last April, so it hasn't been a year and I feel like we've been able to grow in a very natural, organic way, because I've just thrown myself out there, whether it was asking friends to support, whether it was emailing, cold emails, reaching out to people a friend of a friend that knows you know this brand or this podcast and just really putting yourself out there, I think will get you so far, because what do you have to lose? Like you might get those rejections, but then you also get those wins and you're able to move forward and also forget opportunity.
Speaker 2:It's just it's so inspiring to meet other people that are also entrepreneurs, are working hard or you know you can inspire each other, and I think that's such a nice thing about social media is you're able to meet so many people that are alike or different but that are able to inspire you in some way, and I've met such amazing people in the last year.
Speaker 2:So that would be my main advice is just put yourself out there and then, in terms of the actual brand building, I think the main thing I've learned is start doing as much as you can on your own, Like, if you can, if it takes you an hour extra to learn a new skill and then implement that, take that hour extra and learn it, rather than outsourcing everything, because there's a lot that you can learn and then later on, when you hire, you're able to know they're doing it right, they're doing it wrong. You can pinpoint exactly how you like it. But I don't think it's healthy as a founder to go into anything blinded. I think you should know how to do everything so that you're able to manage it later on.
Speaker 1:I think that's absolutely great advice. Like, I really love that advice. Both points that you made are incredible. You know, reaching out out, learning it yourself. I think these are, like key tools for entrepreneurs, truly, um. Okay, so I want to know for you, as Yasmin, what's your daily scent ritual? So, first of all, what's your co-docent of choice? I'm sure everyone's dying to know. Not that you could pick, but you know, um, and you have like a ritual. Like, do you, for example, make sure your house is centered at a certain time of day? Is it sort of like that? Like, do you have any tips for something, for a ritual, creating ritual?
Speaker 2:I mean yes like.
Speaker 2:This is my favorite question because I'm all about rituals, um, so in the morning, usually, like, I, like, I'm a big believer in like as soon as you wake up, open your blinds, open the window, just kind of get that natural sunlight, that fresh air. So usually in the morning when I do that, I'll always pray morning glory um, that's our matcha one and it's just, it's sweet, it's fresh and it's, for me, super energizing. So I love spraying that in the morning. Um, and then usually, like, it will be followed by like I'll go to the kitchen, I'll make a matcha, I'll just kind of sit with myself without using your phone, just have like 20 minutes to yourself, even if it means waking up earlier. I think the morning is so sacred. So that's like the way I would use morning glory in the morning and pick me up.
Speaker 2:I actually don't use as much in the home, but I use it on myself. So before leaving the house, before a workout or something, I'll usually mix morning glory and pick me up. And that's my favorite combination because you get a bit of the green tea, coconut vanilla, which is fresh, but then you get the dark chocolate and the chocolate hazelnut which adds this kind of warmth to it so you smell. You leave the house smelling like edible. Um, I get so many compliments when I when I wear those two, so I would definitely do that I would use it on myself and then in the evening, the way I would use by the fire is when I'm preparing dinner.
Speaker 2:I love cooking so, like, let's say, I'm cooking in the kitchen, I'll always spray by the fire around the house, outside the front door, just to make sure the house is always smelling warm, elevated, cozy and you set the tone for your evening. I think the nicest thing to do is set the tone for your day, set the tone for your evening, the tone for your evening. I think creating an atmosphere which you feel just comfort in changes the way you feel with the people you're around, with yourself. So usually by the fire is definitely our evening scent. And also the notes in it is caramelized sugar, amber, cinnamon, cade wood, candied lemon. So all those notes are really nice and actually neutralizing a food smell. It's like perfect. If you're making fish, let's say yes amazing.
Speaker 1:I love that. I'm so happy to do this. You have the perfect ritual.
Speaker 2:You gave us the blueprint I could literally talk you through this whole day.
Speaker 1:No, no, 100%. And, honestly, my audience loves the details, so this is great. My last question for you before I ask for your curation is what's next for Kodo?
Speaker 2:So, kodo, in the bigger picture, I would love to become your go-to homeware, finally enough, and I would love to bring it back to interior design, and that's our goal in the bigger picture. So all our fragrances right now are made to make your day a little sweeter. And essentially, I would want to add to this collection and like we do have really exciting things happening this year, okay, perfect, I can spill the tea. So we're launching next week a miniature collection. Oh my god so cute.
Speaker 2:It's amazing like I'm obsessed with the bottles. They look so cute, um, they're like just little babies, um, and like a baby bottle. Of our 100 ml, they're all 30 ml. And then we also have a set, uh, which is kind of a discovery set, which have all four of our classic flavors and then one extra one which is a citrus one, and that is going to be our summer scent, which will launch full size in may. And the citrus one is my new favorite. It's like a mandarin lemon, caramelized sugar, a touch of black pepper. It's like it's just the most amazing scent, um, so that's launching in march and then we're launching a really cool collaboration scent in april.
Speaker 2:Um, and yeah, these are like kind of the things in line right now and we'll add to the fragrance collection throughout this year. And then, in the bigger picture, like mentioned, I would love to go into homeware. So once we have the fragrance collection up and running, I want to create things for your home, to make your home a little sweeter. So you have the fragrances and then you have little curated collections, so whether it's a cup collection, a coaster collection, a cushion collection and just accessories to sweeten up your home and then bring it back to that idea of interiors and fragrance and, I guess, the blending of the two amazing, really looking forward to all of that, especially the 30 mil.
Speaker 1:This is perfect for travel and, as someone who travels a lot, like as many things as I can fit in as possible, that's amazing. Um all, so I want to know. Curated bias means. This is the curation podcast. What are things, little things, in your day that you would recommend that elevate your day? Obviously, one of your Kodo sense is one of them. So, yeah, what's your little curation that truly you would recommend to the audience to the audience.
Speaker 2:I think first thing and I feel like people hear this so much, so I'm I am like kind of cautious to say it, but really it's meditation. I know in the wellness world that's so spoken about, but it's, it truly is for a reason. I mean, I've been meditating since the age of 14. And I I really can't imagine my day without it, I can't imagine my life without it, and some mornings it's five minutes, some mornings it's 15, but it just allows you that space to to connect, to, like what am I feeling today? Or, you know, sometimes to ask for guidance, whether you believe in God or not, to be able to pray to something, or just ask for support or guidance or ease, for me is just like such a powerful tool to be able to tap into and understand yourself better and the way you're feeling. And so definitely meditation is like the main thing for me.
Speaker 2:Um, I think any type of movement. Um, I love a workout. I, whether it's a quick walk in the park, a pilates, um, if you like, if your audience likes detail, honestly, I love a legui or I love a reformer a hundred percent.
Speaker 2:Yes, we are all about that okay, fine, so I'll give you the detail. I love a legui class a few times a week because I feel like it builds like amazing strength, um. But I'm also quite petite, so I find the reformer Pilates, let's say, once a week even just gives you this extra bit of length 100% agree, totally, and our Pilates community is extremely strong and they will.
Speaker 1:They will listen to you on this one, okay fine.
Speaker 2:So definitely do like a classical reformer one to two times a week and then a legree, let's say two times a week and then on the other days. I love a home kind of Pilates yoga flow which I feel gives just this extra length and definition to your body, and I love Melissa Wood or Bryony Deary.
Speaker 1:Yes, bryony Deary, melissa Wood, and those are your two that you use to do the at-home flows, right.
Speaker 2:Exactly Like I usually do Melissa's meditation every morning, and then Bryony I love her pilates workouts and I love melissa's yoga workout. So it really depends on what I'm feeling, um, but that definitely is like a big part of curated uh by yasmin in my day, um, and then the other. I guess the final thing is obviously kodo and then also eating good food, and when I say good food, I mean one food that tastes good but that just also feels really good. I think it's quite. It gets quite mixed up these days because you have two extremes.
Speaker 2:You have people that are in wellness, let's say saying only eat food that feels good, and then that can either look like I don don't know a salad or an acai or a lean protein, but then you also have the other extreme, which is like eat whatever you feel like and you know like be intuitive and have the burger and have the pasta. Yeah, for me it's finding that like happy medium, where it's like I'm eating what makes me feel good. So let's say your smoothies, your salads, but also being intuitive and thinking, okay, like I'll do. I feel like a burger, I'll have the burger, but I'll make sure my breakfast and lunch is maybe a bit healthier, includes more vegetables. I think you can't go one extreme or another. Then it's not healthy, but just eating what genuinely feels good for your body and that you know will be better for you in the long run amazing.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much, yasmin. You've given us so many tips and tricks and so much insight into the world of fragrance and into the world of kodo. We can't wait seriously for the minis and all of the upcoming events and incredible things you're going to do, and thank you for being on the podcast.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to share them with you. I'm excited to share them with your audience and, yeah, thank you so much for having me thank you for listening.
Speaker 1:Make sure to follow at the curation pod on instagram to stay updated with all of our future episodes and curations and, of course, make sure to check out at kodo london for all of the future fragrance releases, and I will see you on our next episode.